thinning Mr. Surfacer 1000

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thinning Mr. Surfacer 1000

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Hi guys, I´m sure someone´s asked this before but my search didn´t show any useful results. What can I use to thin Mr. Surfacer? From what i´ve read there´s Mr. Thinner or something like that, but can I use alcohol or lacquer thinner? Is this stuff alcohol based? Many thanks in advance for an answer! :)
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I highly reccommend Gunze's Mr. Color Leveling Thinner. It is hard to find in the states, but the results are well worth it. That being said, I use 91-99% isopropyl alcohol applied to a cotton swab to "sand" Mr. Surfacer, so I suppose it could be used as a thinner. It smells like a lacquer so lacquer thinner might work also.
Keep in mind since I have only tried thining it with Mr. Color Leveling Thinner.
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Seconds on the Mr Leveling Thinner. Blappy turned me onto this (he said the first one's free) and I've never gone back.
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Mr Leveling Thinner if you are airbushing, if not Mr Thinner should do.

Best stuff I found for it.
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I've only just started using Mr. Surfacer in an airbrush instead of rattlecans, but I've found a very thin mix of roughly 4:1 ratio of lacquer thinner to Mr. surfacer goes on nicely. It builds up slowly, and bonds well.
Closer to a 1:1 ratio you get a terrible spider-web effect.

Lacquer thinner also works well to thin it when brushing, too.

Usual caveats about good ventilation apply...it's not a friendly substance.
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Kun2112 wrote:I use 91-99% isopropyl alcohol applied to a cotton swab to "sand" Mr. Surfacer
Big thanks! Gotta try that out! :D
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Kun2112 wrote:I highly reccommend Gunze's Mr. Color Leveling Thinner. It is hard to find in the states, but the results are well worth it. That being said, I use 91-99% isopropyl alcohol applied to a cotton swab to "sand" Mr. Surfacer
denatured alcohol (Ethanol + crap to make it undrinkable) works very well at "sanding" down Mr. Surfacer. You can also use it to thin the stuff in a pinch, but it's not the ideal thinner for it.

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Sdf-1 wrote:
Kun2112 wrote:I use 91-99% isopropyl alcohol applied to a cotton swab to "sand" Mr. Surfacer
Big thanks! Gotta try that out! :D
It takes a certian "touch" to get it right. Don't give up if you initally find the end results are not what you wanted, as it is a very useful tecnique for areas with detail nearby, or when you don't want to do too much sanding. I learned on the enginepods and "wings" of a starfury: http://www.starshipmodeler.org/gallery12/df_fury_05.jpg
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Actually I found "the touch" real soon. I got very good results almost right away. This technique makes many things so much easier & faster for me. It will be a good seam technique as well. I was aware that you can do this trick for seams, but I didn't know it works for smoothing difficult areas, and that you can use alcohol as solvent. I'm very happy about learning this. :)

Oh, btw. you can also thin Mr. surfacer with acetone. Should work perfectly fine for airbrushing. But I haven't yet tried it myself. That's the recommendation I got to use with it, as a cheap & easy alternative to ordering expensive brand thinner from Japan. But as I said, I have yet to try it with airbrush.
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eeun wrote:I've only just started using Mr. Surfacer in an airbrush instead of rattlecans, but I've found a very thin mix of roughly 4:1 ratio of lacquer thinner to Mr. surfacer goes on nicely. It builds up slowly, and bonds well.
Closer to a 1:1 ratio you get a terrible spider-web effect.

Lacquer thinner also works well to thin it when brushing, too.

Usual caveats about good ventilation apply...it's not a friendly substance.
But Spider Web effects can be just the trick for certain things. I used to let paint setup in a cap and then string it across, strand by strand- so thanks for another tip! :D
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Thanks for the help everyone! :)
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