Who collects stuff for scratch building?

Astrazoic · Post by **Astrazoic** » Tue May 22, 2007 9:07 pm

Horror! I seem to have tossed my scrounge box during the move! Blast!

I'm scratchbuilding the Discovery from 2001 and need all sorts of tank parts - so I set off to by tank models. Luckily, it seems 1/72 tanks do the trick (I had no idea what scale would produce the right details).

Anyway, I now go out of my way to find cheap tank and naval kits for the parts. The armor parts, though, take the cake. Luckily, I saved all my spare photoetch bits...

Ti Raven · Post by **Ti Raven** » Thu May 31, 2007 9:20 am

My greeblie bins have been tossed!
Put 'em in a larger, cardboard box... the ones that 6/8 reams of paper come in.

cygaramond · Post by **cygaramond** » Thu May 31, 2007 2:01 pm

I've got a box full of various bits and pieces from every model I have worked on. I keep thinking that I need to just pour some glue in that box and shake it a few times and paint what comes out as a Borg ship.

-Chad

Ti Raven · Post by **Ti Raven** » Thu May 31, 2007 3:59 pm

Chad, far, far stranger things have come to pass!

Scotaidh · Post by **Scotaidh** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:37 am

I'm always in the $ stores looking at plastic shapes ... last night in a Big Lots I almost bought a Princess Wand thingie.

This morning I did buy three plastic 'echo microphones' from my local gas station ...

I need help.

Ti Raven · Post by **Ti Raven** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:53 am

Yesterday I bought a working Konami game at the yard sale across the street for $1.00.
The Lone Ranger one... 'cause it's such a spiffy shape.
Don't care if it's still working... it won't for long! Muhahahahahahh!

"cuse me... slipped just a bit. I'm all better now...really...

Ti Raven

Bob Lum · Post by **Bob Lum** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:01 am

Whenever I see something interesting I throw it into my junk box. Sometimes I build something out of nothing just to keep in practise and also to save money by not buying something. I've been finding that scratch/bashing building is actually more rewarding than assembling and painting a "kit".

Chacal · Post by **Chacal** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 4:13 pm

Bob Lum wrote:Whenever I see something interesting I throw it into my junk box. Sometimes I build something out of nothing just to keep in practise and also to save money by not buying something. I've been finding that scratch/bashing building is actually more rewarding than assembling and painting a "kit".

AMEN brother!!! Another wretched soul saved from the jaws of fiery damnation in the pits of kit-assembly hell! Hallelujah!! Welcome to the fold, my brother, welcome.

Cygnus_X-1 · Post by **Cygnus_X-1** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:38 pm

Chacal wrote:
Bob Lum wrote:Whenever I see something interesting I throw it into my junk box. Sometimes I build something out of nothing just to keep in practise and also to save money by not buying something. I've been finding that scratch/bashing building is actually more rewarding than assembling and painting a "kit".
AMEN brother!!! Another wretched soul saved from the jaws of fiery damnation in the pits of kit-assembly hell! Hallelujah!! Welcome to the fold, my brother, welcome.

Of course, according to a master model builder, putting together existing model parts and found objects and calling them a spaceship still isn't model building, and he goes on to say that model judges are tired of it.

More opinions of a master model builder who must not be mentioned here:

(Warning strong opinons, your mileage may vary.)

http://culttvman.com/scratchbuilding.html

Kolschey · Post by **Kolschey** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:42 pm

I think we all know the opinions of "he who shall not be mentioned"

On a brighter note, I just scored a shopping bag of busted toys from the remnants of a yard sale.

Happy,happy greeblies!

1138thx · Post by **1138thx** » Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:59 pm

Me too I scored big time at garage sales memorial day weekend.

The words I love to here the most: "Oh! you can have that model for a quarter . it's missing parts!."

I gata post pics of what I got it's just to awesome to keep to myself.

And all weekend I probably didn't spend more than 10 bucks for everything.

90 percent of what I do is total freeform and scratchbuild , but I read part of Cult tv mans article and it's way too arrogant. Anyone can be great at their particular craft . It doesn't make someone elses stuff less worthy.

Chacal · Post by **Chacal** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:24 pm

1138thx wrote:...that model...it s missing parts!"

Pretty soon it'll go from "a model missing parts" to "parts, missing a model", huh?

1138thx · Post by **1138thx** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:45 pm

Ya know I thought about that and I plan on asking the local coffee shop babe if she wouldn't mind posing with a few of my ships!

Forget porn! Give me a chick that can weld chrome moly tubing, now thats sexy!

Ti Raven · Post by **Ti Raven** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:51 pm

I got swiped by the Photo dept. today.
Did you ever look inside of a disposable camera?
Sweet greeblies for Ti!
Some shall become clay texturing tools, while others shall come into
their own as pieces-parts for whatever actually gets built first!

I'm working on a fine silver pendant that one of these thingies will texture just perfectly.

Kylwell · Post by **Kylwell** » Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:59 pm

Ti Raven wrote:I got swiped by the Photo dept. today.
Did you ever look inside of a disposable camera?
Sweet greeblies for Ti!
Some shall become clay texturing tools, while others shall come into
their own as pieces-parts for whatever actually gets built first!

I'm working on a fine silver pendant that one of these thingies will texture just perfectly.

Just be careful of the ones with a flash. That little capaciter packs a jolt.

Kolschey · Post by **Kolschey** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 5:46 am

KylwellÂ® wrote:
Ti Raven wrote:I got swiped by the Photo dept. today.
Did you ever look inside of a disposable camera?
Sweet greeblies for Ti!

Just be careful of the ones with a flash. That little capaciter packs a jolt.

Ohh...you aren't kidding there!

One of them gave me quite the surprise some while back.

Ti Raven · Post by **Ti Raven** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 7:47 am

KylwellÂ® wrote:
Ti Raven wrote:I got swiped by the Photo dept. today.
Did you ever look inside of a disposable camera?
Sweet greeblies for Ti!

Just be careful of the ones with a flash. That little capaciter packs a jolt.

(looking up in adoration, all dewey-eyed....) Oh...Yes! Master!...

Seriously, though,... Kylwell, it was a comment of yours...(made several years ago, I think) that did warn me 'bout that very hazard.
Thanks for the warning and for your fine self modeling as an example!

Lt. Z0mBe · Post by **Lt. Z0mBe** » Wed Jun 06, 2007 8:55 pm

Kolschey wrote:I think we all know the opinions of "he who shall not be mentioned"

On a brighter note, I just scored a shopping bag of busted toys from the remnants of a yard sale.

Happy,happy greeblies!

Only I am a true model builder, for I compile my construction mediums from their elemental components. So called "scratchbuilders" are just mere "materials assemblers."

Now, I have to be off, for I have an audience with God!

Kenny

EberKain · Post by **EberKain** » Fri Jun 08, 2007 8:04 am

I pulled apart an old electronic dartboard for some nifty stuff, lotsa rocket pod type stuff.

Ti Raven · Post by **Ti Raven** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:22 am

I've got to sort the goodies and see what pieces are comprised of the
EVIL PLASTICS. I suppose that I could make molds of the ones that
thrill the most.

Ti Raven

MillenniumFalsehood · Post by **MillenniumFalsehood** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 2:59 pm

I need something to store my sprues. I know I've seen someone's bench that has a "rack"(for want of a better term) that he stores them in. Is there something I can buy commercially that I can store sprues in?

Lt. Z0mBe · Post by **Lt. Z0mBe** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:54 pm

MillenniumFalsehood wrote:I need something to store my sprues. I know I've seen someone's bench that has a "rack"(for want of a better term) that he stores them in. Is there something I can buy commercially that I can store sprues in?

A piece of plywood or chipboard. Seriously. Cut it to make a three-sided box with the fourth side being the back wall of your bench and the floor being the bench itself. It's what I do for odd shaped stuff:

workbench rack

Things get tangled? No worries! Just lift the box out of the way. I secured mine's sides with three-inch screws.

I hope this helps.

Kenny

Scotaidh · Post by **Scotaidh** » Tue Jul 10, 2007 7:27 am

I heard on the radio this morning that Staples has pencil sharpeners for a cent each.

I have several, but I'm going to get some more, if I can find some of the right shapes.

The ones I have are next best thing to an A-10's engines.

Bar · Post by **Bar** » Wed Jul 11, 2007 11:56 am

I was in a pound shop in Glasgow today, and i saw a great personal grooming kit. It was a small set of electric hair clippers, a comb and a pair of scissors...
I took one look at the clippers and thought: "Those are podracer engines..."
I bought four sets, just in case...
Bar.

publiusr · Post by **publiusr** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 2:28 pm

Try this enclosed cone shape:

www.wrsweeney.com
http://www.wrsweeney.com/mole_gopher_pr ... ct=peanuts

It stands over a foot high.

Great for that VTOVL design with the jets all around it that I can't recall at the moment.

Chacal · Post by **Chacal** » Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:24 pm

We all collect stuff, scrounge stuff, "salvage" stuff from the garbage, buy "potentially useful" neat doodads ("Truly, honey, this whistling bubble blower will be really useful back home, whenever you're feeling down, just blow and wheep, here come the bubbles to make you smile. Can I have it?").

But do we actually use them? Do we do something to disguise their origins? Do we cut or alter them in any way to make them less obvious to casual onlookers (remember Qui Gon's "Gillette sensor for women-slash-communicator")?

If so, how'bout some examples?

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:50 am

No cutting necessary:

http://www.kc6sye.com/images/images_04_ ... nistor.jpg

Take one marketing advertisement plastic breath mint canister. Sandoff the companies logo, glue the dispenser opening shut. Scribe some panel lines. Add a kit bridge section. And bingo a perimeter defense ship, cast resin copies.
http://www.kc6sye.com/images/images_01_ ... onitor.jpg
http://www.kc6sye.com/images/images_05_ ... ed_sms.jpg

Finding the perfect shape in something else then hacking it out:
http://www.kc6sye.com/techmages_9_25_03.html
http://www.kc6sye.com/techmages_10_4_03_b.html

Ti Raven · Post by **Ti Raven** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:14 am

Oooo, Sparky! Looks uber cool!
Good pix, as well.

(where is an umlaut when I need one?)

Sparky · Post by **Sparky** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:20 am

The canister end's needed to be molded and cast, it was tricky to mold, and I didn't get vary many casts out of it. And of coarse I didn't get to that point in my molding and casting till after the Neil made his canisters. So paint and glue don't' stick and they are a part of the major structural support so the canisters pop apart all the time.

http://www.kc6sye.com/images/images_11_ ... ga_tug.jpg

So if you have a neat part but its made of some odd nylon find someone to mold and cast it for you. If you can find home for 10 or 15 casting the cost can be shared.

Chacal · Post by **Chacal** » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:35 pm

Ti Raven wrote:(where is an umlaut when I need one?)

Here, you can have this one.

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I'm not using it right now.

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