Tiny flexible hoses?
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Tiny flexible hoses?
Does anybody make tiny hoses for robots & space ships that look similar to these?:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mcfarlane-ghost-in-the-shell-/261412981874?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item3cdd6d8c72
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-6-Lego-10-Technic-Ribbed-Hose-Pearl-Silver-AERO-TUBES-Hanger-for-7317-/161132170911?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item258439ce9f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LEGO-Lot-of-2-Trans-Clear-Hose-Flexible-Ribbed-19L-Blue-Center-Chima-/330939729477?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item4d0d8b8645
I was hoping to find a scale model/train company like Plastruct that makes them. But I can't find anything tiny enough.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mcfarlane-ghost-in-the-shell-/261412981874?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item3cdd6d8c72
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-6-Lego-10-Technic-Ribbed-Hose-Pearl-Silver-AERO-TUBES-Hanger-for-7317-/161132170911?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item258439ce9f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LEGO-Lot-of-2-Trans-Clear-Hose-Flexible-Ribbed-19L-Blue-Center-Chima-/330939729477?pt=Building_Toys_US&hash=item4d0d8b8645
I was hoping to find a scale model/train company like Plastruct that makes them. But I can't find anything tiny enough.
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Re: Tiny flexible hoses?
These will work.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mcfarlane-ghost ... 3cdd6d8c72
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-6-Lego-1 ... 258439ce9f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LEGO-Lot-of ... 4d0d8b8645
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mcfarlane-ghost ... 3cdd6d8c72
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-6-Lego-1 ... 258439ce9f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-LEGO-Lot-of ... 4d0d8b8645
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I know that's not what the instructions say, but the kit's wrong anyway.
I know that's not what the instructions say, but the kit's wrong anyway.
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Whoops! Thought I set the links right. Sorry about that.
My first idea was to use bass guitar strings. But I need something more rubbery & easier to cut & work with. I ordered some cheap snake chains for power cables. Now I need something that can work for a 12" robot, neck & joint wires. Similar to McFarlane's T-X Terminator figure.
If I can't find anything I'm going to try to recast the wires that come with that Ghost In The Shell figure. Smooth-On makes soft rubber for casting Halloween masks & special effects. But I was hoping I wouldn't have to go through that much trouble.
I might pick up some guitar strings to see how well they'll work. Walmart's craft dept. has rubber bead cord that's perfect except it's not ribbed. I have some of it here, wish I could get the same stuff in a ribbed mechanical style.
My first idea was to use bass guitar strings. But I need something more rubbery & easier to cut & work with. I ordered some cheap snake chains for power cables. Now I need something that can work for a 12" robot, neck & joint wires. Similar to McFarlane's T-X Terminator figure.
If I can't find anything I'm going to try to recast the wires that come with that Ghost In The Shell figure. Smooth-On makes soft rubber for casting Halloween masks & special effects. But I was hoping I wouldn't have to go through that much trouble.
I might pick up some guitar strings to see how well they'll work. Walmart's craft dept. has rubber bead cord that's perfect except it's not ribbed. I have some of it here, wish I could get the same stuff in a ribbed mechanical style.
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A cut-off wheel on a Dremel makes guitar strings easy to cut, and just bend them to smaller radius than the final one you need. Small to tiny extension springs work great, and better if slipped over a length of solder, copper or annealed iron wire. Same with de-soldering braid for woven looking hoses.
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Yeah, these would work nicely
http://www.drtempleman.com/userfiles/im ... es-1-L.jpg
Do any stores carry them or do I need to order online? I found a picture of them but can't find anything even close when I search.
Ah, screw it! I'll give guitar strings a go.
http://www.drtempleman.com/userfiles/im ... es-1-L.jpg
Do any stores carry them or do I need to order online? I found a picture of them but can't find anything even close when I search.
Ah, screw it! I'll give guitar strings a go.
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MDC of England do a couple of sizes of scale oxygen hose. Not cheap but looks really good...
http://www.modeldesignconstruction.co.u ... ccessories
Their main site doesn't have much of a description. You'll find more info here...
http://www.scaleplasticandrail.com/kabo ... xygen-hose
Waldron products used to do scale rubber hose in various scales, but the new owners (Roll Models Inc) don't seem to be doing them anymore. They occasionally show up on evil-bay.
http://www.modeldesignconstruction.co.u ... ccessories
Their main site doesn't have much of a description. You'll find more info here...
http://www.scaleplasticandrail.com/kabo ... xygen-hose
Waldron products used to do scale rubber hose in various scales, but the new owners (Roll Models Inc) don't seem to be doing them anymore. They occasionally show up on evil-bay.
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What's the approx. diameter of hose you're looking for?
Hobbylink Japan has various sizes of flexible spring:
http://www.hlj.com/product/KBYMS07/Sci
Also this, for a chunkier look:
http://www.hlj.com/product/HQPPP3/Sci
And if you're looking for something larger than guitar strings, a bass guitar 'e' string is pretty hefty, and the inner core wires of the string can be pulled out, leaving a very flexible hose.
Hobbylink Japan has various sizes of flexible spring:
http://www.hlj.com/product/KBYMS07/Sci
Also this, for a chunkier look:
http://www.hlj.com/product/HQPPP3/Sci
And if you're looking for something larger than guitar strings, a bass guitar 'e' string is pretty hefty, and the inner core wires of the string can be pulled out, leaving a very flexible hose.
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The Kotobukiya springs are nice but can be stiff. I prefer Wave's for large spring sizes.
But, sometimes you just can't get the look you want or you're trying to replicate metal conduit.
http://www.hungrylizardstudio.com/super ... ng_p_s.pdf
The one change I am making is switching to soft aluminum wire or lead free solder as it doesn't react with CA the way lead does.
But, sometimes you just can't get the look you want or you're trying to replicate metal conduit.
http://www.hungrylizardstudio.com/super ... ng_p_s.pdf
The one change I am making is switching to soft aluminum wire or lead free solder as it doesn't react with CA the way lead does.
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I got my snake chains & Ghost In The Shell figure in the mail today & everything is absolutely perfect!
I can easily recast the hoses that came with the GITS figure using Alumilite Flex. And as an unexpected bonus the hoses have plugs on the ends so I can link as many as I want together. They'll look awesome added to Mechanical Chain Bases, H-Hangars or Robotech Factory model kits.
I'm probably gonna have to learn how to make videos for Youtube.
I can easily recast the hoses that came with the GITS figure using Alumilite Flex. And as an unexpected bonus the hoses have plugs on the ends so I can link as many as I want together. They'll look awesome added to Mechanical Chain Bases, H-Hangars or Robotech Factory model kits.
I'm probably gonna have to learn how to make videos for Youtube.
Not that i have tome to build much, but I have this print out form wonderfest ...4 years ago now? or three? i cannot recall, in a nice binder sitting at my work bench at all times. ...Kylwell wrote:The Kotobukiya springs are nice but can be stiff. I prefer Wave's for large spring sizes.
But, sometimes you just can't get the look you want or you're trying to replicate metal conduit.
http://www.hungrylizardstudio.com/super ... ng_p_s.pdf
The one change I am making is switching to soft aluminum wire or lead free solder as it doesn't react with CA the way lead does.
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Kylwell's method is The Way To Go. Guitar strings, even when annealed, can only flex so much, and tend to want to go back to their original shape. Wrapping fine solder around a mandrel or another piece of solder gives you a very flexible, realistic looking hose. It can be further shaped to drape convincingly over underlying details, and holds it's shape well. It doesn't take as long as you'd think either, and it's very easy.
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I've done similar things with very fine electrical wire, using one strand as a 'core' and wrapping a second strand tightly around the first.
They stay flexible - they won't pose rigidly the way solder would. You can make some VERY fine 'hoses' that way, though.
Based on the color of your wire, you may even end up not painting them - if you use black or gray wire you get a 'hose' that's already authentically black rubber!
They stay flexible - they won't pose rigidly the way solder would. You can make some VERY fine 'hoses' that way, though.
Based on the color of your wire, you may even end up not painting them - if you use black or gray wire you get a 'hose' that's already authentically black rubber!
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Look for garter springs...they're used around ring seals for gaskets.
I got these from amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085Y ... UTF8&psc=1
Good luck!
I got these from amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0085Y ... UTF8&psc=1
Good luck!
[forehead slap] No wonder I wasn't getting anywhere with that technique... I was trying to wrap wire around an mandrill rather than a mandrel...Kylwell wrote:Yup. Some solder or wire, a mandrel, roll and if need be flatten.
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That's a common mistake but won't give you the smooth curve you're looking for and can lead to injuries.naoto wrote:[forehead slap] No wonder I wasn't getting anywhere with that technique... I was trying to wrap wire around an mandrill rather than a mandrel...Kylwell wrote:Yup. Some solder or wire, a mandrel, roll and if need be flatten.
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Not sure what a gooseneck looks like but if it's jewelry related there's always Fire Mountain Gems http://www.firemountaingems.com/
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Or are you looking for this http://tubing.flexible-gooseneck.com/it ... ifications
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Look for round rubber leg material at a fly tying supply shop. This is a strip of rubber material made of individual round sections that can be peeled away. Sold as a strip about 1" wide and 18" long. Fine size is about 1/2 mm in diameter. It's available in a variety of colors. See here:
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/hareline-ro ... 20020-FIRD
http://www.jsflyfishing.com/hareline-ro ... 20020-FIRD
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Once in a while my wife that is a cloth doll maker asks me to make some scratch accessory. She uses to customize her dolls to fit some customer aspects. Past week she asked me to make a stethoscope to use in a doctor doll.
The more challenging part was to imagine what I would use to replicate the black rubber hose. Then I ended with a house wire but it was too hard and she wanted it flexible. So I just stripped it from the copper and stayed with the plastic cap.
Here the stethoscope and the doll with it around the neck:
http://i.imgur.com/zh7rvFd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KXvUTfw.jpg
So, wires are excellent to make hoses!
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_cheesygrin.gif)
The more challenging part was to imagine what I would use to replicate the black rubber hose. Then I ended with a house wire but it was too hard and she wanted it flexible. So I just stripped it from the copper and stayed with the plastic cap.
Here the stethoscope and the doll with it around the neck:
http://i.imgur.com/zh7rvFd.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KXvUTfw.jpg
So, wires are excellent to make hoses!
![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_cheesygrin.gif)
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I bought a roll of window screen rubber spline at my local hardware shop.
It makes for convincing tubing on ships in a 1/72 scale or larger...also looks good on some larger robots. You can get a lot of it for cheap.
I've also used the black plastic twisty ties that a lot of products are packaged in nowadays...it's easy to manipulate and glue.
It makes for convincing tubing on ships in a 1/72 scale or larger...also looks good on some larger robots. You can get a lot of it for cheap.
I've also used the black plastic twisty ties that a lot of products are packaged in nowadays...it's easy to manipulate and glue.