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Tamiya Clear coat

Post by holt35 » Sat May 06, 2017 5:54 pm

Hey guys I'm about to finish my new Excelsior model and I've been having problems with my old clear not drying and remaining a little sticky even years latter so I need to switch it up but am worried about yellowing. Has anyone used Tamiya clear coat TS-13 and if so have you noticed any yellowing over time?

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Post by Rocketeer » Sat May 06, 2017 8:03 pm

I've used Tamiya clear and have not noticed any yellowing. Specifically, I used it (a lot of it!) on a JoHan '68 SCRambler model I built several years ago.

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Post by irishtrek » Sat May 06, 2017 11:00 pm

Is this Tamyia clear a gloss or flat??
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Post by holt35 » Sun May 07, 2017 7:29 pm

Thanks for the info guys I'm still not sure what I should use since every time I've ever used lacquer spray it's yellowed over time I'd rather use acrylic but I'm not sure what a good one is ?I use to use Krylon crystal clear but it's really let me down the last two times I've used it.

If anyone has a better option please let me know.

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Post by irishtrek » Sun May 07, 2017 10:58 pm

From what I've read Testors clear gloss will yellow but their clear flat does not yellow.
since you're building the Excelsior do you want a gloss or a flat finish??
If it's gloss the go with future floor polish, if it's a flat finish it's my understanding the Testors clear flat does not yellow.
Don't know about Tamyia clears though.
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Post by holt35 » Mon May 08, 2017 4:20 pm

Thanks irishtrek. I need a gloss finish for the decals and I like a gloss finish better myself I know everybody love's future floor polish and I've kind of stayed away from it. What is it called now day I though they changed the name a few years back and is they anything I need to know about airbrushing with it?

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Post by Vetter » Mon May 08, 2017 8:57 pm

It's under the Pledge line now. Something like Pledge with future shine on the label and make sure it's says acrylic.

Can't say about airbrushing it as I haven't tried to.

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Post by irishtrek » Mon May 08, 2017 10:44 pm

Got me bottle right next to me and the label says
'pledge floor care tile & vinyl floor finish with future shine'.
I have run it through my airbrush with no problems.
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Post by holt35 » Tue May 09, 2017 9:13 pm

I'm reading online that it's now called Pledge floor care multi-surface finish. Can anyone confirm this.

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Post by Zubie » Tue May 09, 2017 9:41 pm

Are the Modge Podge brand acrylic clear coats (marketed in gloss, semi-gloss, and flat) a useful substitute for the floorwax. I happen to have a can I used on a card models since as a spray it doesn't soak the paper (although on this occasion, the paper was already painted in silver enamel - normally I use the Krylon clear for sealing paper).
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Post by irishtrek » Tue May 09, 2017 10:47 pm

So, will the Tamyia gloss turn yellow over time??
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Post by Rocketeer » Wed May 10, 2017 12:17 am

As I mentioned above ;) , a model car I built several years ago, painted with Tamiya clear, shows no signs of yellowing.

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Post by SpaceRanger1 » Wed May 10, 2017 12:36 pm

holt35 wrote:I'm reading online that it's now called Pledge floor care multi-surface finish. Can anyone confirm this.
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Post by holt35 » Wed May 10, 2017 3:29 pm

Rocketeer wrote:As I mentioned above ;) , a model car I built several years ago, painted with Tamiya clear, shows no signs of yellowing.
I have to ask is the model car White or a different color? it seems to me that the yellowing will be more noticeable on a White model.

Thanks for the confirmation SpaceRanger1 I'll have to finally pick some up and see how I like it.

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Post by Rocketeer » Wed May 10, 2017 4:50 pm

holt35 wrote:
Rocketeer wrote:As I mentioned above ;) , a model car I built several years ago, painted with Tamiya clear, shows no signs of yellowing.
I have to ask is the model car White or a different color? it seems to me that the yellowing will be more noticeable on a White model.

It's red, white, and blue. That is, white mostly, with blue decal stripes: http://gearheads.org/wp-content/uploads ... ler_02.jpg

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Post by holt35 » Wed May 10, 2017 8:40 pm

Rocketeer wrote:
holt35 wrote:
Rocketeer wrote:As I mentioned above ;) , a model car I built several years ago, painted with Tamiya clear, shows no signs of yellowing.
I have to ask is the model car White or a different color? it seems to me that the yellowing will be more noticeable on a White model.

It's red, white, and blue. That is, white mostly, with blue decal stripes: http://gearheads.org/wp-content/uploads ... ler_02.jpg
Very nice looking model If I didn't know already I'd have though it was a real car in the photo. And I don't see any yellowing so Tamiya must make good stuff.

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Post by irishtrek » Wed May 10, 2017 11:17 pm

Rocketeer wrote:
holt35 wrote:
Rocketeer wrote:As I mentioned above ;) , a model car I built several years ago, painted with Tamiya clear, shows no signs of yellowing.
I have to ask is the model car White or a different color? it seems to me that the yellowing will be more noticeable on a White model.

It's red, white, and blue. That is, white mostly, with blue decal stripes: http://gearheads.org/wp-content/uploads ... ler_02.jpg
That's an awesome looking paint job!!!
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Post by TurkeyVolumeGuessingMan » Thu May 11, 2017 12:20 am

Holt, Tamiya TS-13 Clear out of the rattle can is a lacquer, and is not intended to go over decals as it will eat them up. Use it as a base coat, but I would advise against using it over decals. Sorry to sound like a Japan snob, but Tamiya doesn't make crap like Testors clear coat. I'm not even that much of a Tamiya fan at that, and I prefer Mr. Color anyway.

As for that bottle you have, that is just weird and you should just throw it out. I've never had a problem with Tamiya clears refusing to dry. Testors silver and gold enamel paints (out of the small, square bottles) never seem to dry completely, in my experience.
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Post by Rocketeer » Thu May 11, 2017 12:32 am

holt35 wrote:...Very nice looking model If I didn't know already I'd have though it was a real car in the photo. And I don't see any yellowing so Tamiya must make good stuff.

I saw what you did there. ;) The photo is of a real car, of course; I just wanted to illustrate what proportion of the paint was white.

But hey. I just ran downstairs and took some pics of the model:

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z256 ... kypipu.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z256 ... bwiza5.jpg

http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z256 ... 8pnfop.jpg

You can see that the white and clear coat has held up very well. :)

PS: What was said in TVGM's post just above about Tamiya Clear not liking decals is quite true. I went through three sets of decals painting that model; they kept distorting/shrinking. The final solution was to spray a couple light coats, and then only go heavy on the last couple.

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Post by TurkeyVolumeGuessingMan » Thu May 11, 2017 2:10 am

What you could also do (according to someone on here who also is on the Macrossworld modeling forum but I cannot remember his name) is lay down a coat of clear acrylic before a final coat of TS-13 after it's cured. I've never done this, but it sounds feasible. IIRC, the can itself says that it is not to be sprayed onto decals as it will ruin them.
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Post by holt35 » Thu May 11, 2017 10:06 pm

Thanks for all the reply's. I've decided to go with the pledge clear and for the decals I ordered Papilio decal laminate which they say to use with Papilio decals.

Turkeyvolume it wasn't the Tamiya that didn't dry it was the Krylon crystal clear on my 1/1000 Saratoga model, after about a year and it still feeling sticky I wet sanded it to take the stickiness away and it's pretty good now but it's not something I want to deal with ever again.

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