Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?

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Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?

Post by redapplesonly » Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:14 pm

Hello Jedi Masters,

I have a question about resin kits and primers. I recently bought my first resin model kit, only to realize I know beans about painting resin. I’ve been reading up on this online, and there’s a lot of conflicting information out there. So I figured it couldn’t hurt to solicit some opinions from you folks.

Question The First: What primer would you recommend? Everyone agrees you need to start resin with a primer. Ideally, I’d like a good spray primer… mostly because I’m lazy.

Question The Second: Do I have to buy new paints? My current paints come in three categories:
*** For spray paints, I like Tamiya Color Spray Paint (Acrylic)
*** For bottled paints, I prefer Testor’ Enamel, the standard ¼ oz bottle sizes
*** I also use 17 ml Vallejo Acrylic paints if I have to fix and blend colors on the model.

I’m assuming once I get a good primer layer on my resin kit, I’m good to go with the paints I already have. Is that a bad assumption? Do I need to buy a whole new set of paints for resin painting?

Many, many thanks!
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Re: Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?

Post by Johnnycrash » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:02 pm

Answer The First: Just about ANY primer will work fine. It's more about preparing the resin surface for paint. Wash the resin parts in warm water and a mild soap (dish), as this will remove the silicone oils, along with any mold release used.. Then spray with your favourite primer. *I* personally prefer a sandable scratch filling automotive etching primer. It's cheap, available just about everywhere, and does a nice job of leveling out.

Answer The Second: No.
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Post by TazMan2000 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 7:51 pm

That automotive etching primer...do you have a brand name that works for you?

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Post by Johnnycrash » Tue Dec 15, 2015 8:21 pm

TazMan2000 wrote:That automotive etching primer...do you have a brand name that works for you?
It's just called "Primer" from Canadian Tire. It's oxide red. I think it might also come in grey (used to). But I find that the grey doesn't cover very well.
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Post by thetraveler7819 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 9:00 pm

DupliColor Black is pretty good too, fills those tiny gaps nicely!
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Post by DaveVan » Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:29 pm

I keep ALL DupliColor primer, fillers and sealers on hand. Been using them for 20 years. I really like the gray sealer best if a fill is not needed. Very thin but excellent coverage. I get them locally at Magic Mart but when they are out.....Amazon.
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Post by southwestforests » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:33 pm

Will make note of this, recently got a resin & metal mini and the last time I painted resin was in the 1990s.
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Post by thetraveler7819 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:54 pm

Yep, ditto on Amazon
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Post by TazMan2000 » Wed Dec 16, 2015 12:46 am

Johnnycrash wrote:
TazMan2000 wrote:That automotive etching primer...do you have a brand name that works for you?
It's just called "Primer" from Canadian Tire. It's oxide red. I think it might also come in grey (used to). But I find that the grey doesn't cover very well.

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Post by dizzyfugu » Wed Dec 16, 2015 3:07 am

Cleaning the parts thoroughly is half the job. And beyond that, any acrylic primer (automotive stuff is good, DupliColor great and the white Tamiya primer excellent, but expensive) will do. I do not recommend spray filler, though, it tends (from my experience) to react with resin and the remaining softeners. Rather apply two thin coats of primer and wet sand them.
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Post by redapplesonly » Wed Dec 16, 2015 6:12 am

[quote="DaveVan"]I keep ALL DupliColor primer, fillers and sealers on hand. Been using them for 20 years. I really like the gray sealer best if a fill is not needed. Very thin but excellent coverage. I get them locally at Magic Mart but when they are out.....Amazon.[/quote]

Thanks for the advice; is this the primer you recommended?

http://www.amazon.com/Dupli-Color-DAP16 ... lor+primer

I'm looking at a lot of primers and note most of them say they are designed for "wood, metal, fiberglass" - does this mean they are okay for resin kits too?

Thanks!
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Re: Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?

Post by Lt. Z0mBe » Wed Dec 16, 2015 2:52 pm

Johnnycrash wrote:Answer The First: Just about ANY primer will work fine. It's more about preparing the resin surface for paint. Wash the resin parts in warm water and a mild soap (dish), as this will remove the silicone oils, along with any mold release used.. Then spray with your favourite primer. *I* personally prefer a sandable scratch filling automotive etching primer. It's cheap, available just about everywhere, and does a nice job of leveling out.

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Re: Resin Kits -- Recommend a Good Primer?

Post by redapplesonly » Thu Dec 17, 2015 12:11 pm

Lt. Z0mBe wrote:
Johnnycrash wrote:Answer The First: Just about ANY primer will work fine. It's more about preparing the resin surface for paint. Wash the resin parts in warm water and a mild soap (dish), as this will remove the silicone oils, along with any mold release used.. Then spray with your favourite primer. *I* personally prefer a sandable scratch filling automotive etching primer. It's cheap, available just about everywhere, and does a nice job of leveling out.

Answer The Second: No.
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Post by Blappy » Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:45 am

I use this almost exclusively on resin. I thin it about 65% thinner to paint and blow it through my airbrush. 95% of all the kits I build are resin.

http://hobbywave.com/modeling_supplies/ ... rimer.html
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Post by Lonewolf » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:45 pm

I pretty much use gray sandable acrylic auto primer on my builds. Sometimes, depending on whether I want "pre-shading" underneath, I use black.
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Post by Blappy » Sat Jan 23, 2016 1:18 pm

Lonewolf wrote:I pretty much use gray sandable acrylic auto primer on my builds. Sometimes, depending on whether I want "pre-shading" underneath, I use black.
I have found that most rattle can primers except Mr.Color and Tamiya fill too much detail for most builds.

You really cannot beat the airbrush primers for an accurate scale finish.
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Post by Glorfindel » Thu Jan 28, 2016 9:57 pm

Blappy wrote:
Lonewolf wrote:I pretty much use gray sandable acrylic auto primer on my builds. Sometimes, depending on whether I want "pre-shading" underneath, I use black.
I have found that most rattle can primers except Mr.Color and Tamiya fill too much detail for most builds.

You really cannot beat the airbrush primers for an accurate scale finish.
I'm liking the Vallejo Surface Primer myself. Doesn't gunk up the airbrush and leaves the details super crisp.
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Post by iSteve » Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:42 pm

Would Alclad primers be too hot for resin?
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Post by jafo » Tue May 03, 2016 11:25 am

valspar micromist grey primer goes one very fine and doesnt cover up detail. So far for me its been as good as Tamiya.

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Post by DaveVan » Wed May 04, 2016 6:40 am

redapplesonly wrote:
DaveVan wrote:I keep ALL DupliColor primer, fillers and sealers on hand. Been using them for 20 years. I really like the gray sealer best if a fill is not needed. Very thin but excellent coverage. I get them locally at Magic Mart but when they are out.....Amazon.
Thanks for the advice; is this the primer you recommended?

http://www.amazon.com/Dupli-Color-DAP16 ... lor+primer

I'm looking at a lot of primers and note most of them say they are designed for "wood, metal, fiberglass" - does this mean they are okay for resin kits too?

Thanks!
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Post by nurturer » Fri Aug 26, 2016 7:46 am

Tamiya light gray

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Post by NCC1966 » Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:11 am

People uses primer for two reasons...

1) even the surface to find imperfections
2) anchor the paint

OK, I started modeling very long ago when you just painted (or not!) your models so I never used primers. Personally I think it's just an unnecessary product just to make people spend a bit more money.

But anyway, to even the surface to see and correct problems (seams, holes, etc) I just paint my models in a light grey with the regular paint I use. Now for the anchoring of the paint, you really won't need it if you use enamels or strong acrylics such as Tamiya. Cannot tell about lacquer because I never worked with it.

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Post by NCC1966 » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:14 am

I forgot to mention that I don't build only plastic kits. I build and paint also resin figures from e2046 and I proceed exactly the same way. I didn't have any problem to the date.

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Post by Blappy » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:47 am

NCC1966 wrote:I forgot to mention that I don't build only plastic kits. I build and paint also resin figures from e2046 and I proceed exactly the same way. I didn't have any problem to the date.

:)
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Post by NCC1966 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:01 am

Blappy wrote:
NCC1966 wrote:I forgot to mention that I don't build only plastic kits. I build and paint also resin figures from e2046 and I proceed exactly the same way. I didn't have any problem to the date.

:)
The proofs in the puddin! Lets see some pictures of your builds.
Here it is two of them. Will find pics of others and upload later...

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Post by NCC1966 » Fri Sep 16, 2016 11:56 am

Found a few more... actually I thought that I had lost those pictures in one of my latest HD cleanup. And no, I don't have these figures anymore (sold or given away), except for the last one "Tutu" (the ballerina) that I made for my wife. She needs some restoration though. The figure, not my wife...

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